This page also has other serial numbers for guns made by Ithaca, LeFever, and some others. In the early 70s the company went public and within a few years ran into financial troubles, sold off everything except Ithaca, and filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 1978, closing the plant for several months. Ithaca model 37 feather light. Barrel lengths for 12-, 16- and 20-gauge guns are 26, 28 or 30 inches, and for the 28 gauge, 26 or 28 inches, all with lengthened forcing cones for better patterns and reduced recoil. The company changed hands again in the mid 90s, which changed the name of the pump gun back to the Model 37, and moved Ithaca Gun Co. LLC to Upper Sandusky, Ohio, where it remains today, turning out high quality Model 37s, 1911s and several variants of a high-grade rifle. Sold Out See Details. The design is derived from the JMB designed Remington model 17. More than two million Model 37s have been produced over its 80-year history. After World War II, Ithaca resumed production of the Model 37. They tend to be heavier and are not as easy handling in the field. The 37s that were at the competitions NEVER worked under the restraints required by the times in order to be competitive. What year or serial # range did the mod 37 stop being able to slam fire? The shotgun ejects out the bottom of the receiver. Ads were bought in outdoor magazines asking owners of 1893s to send their shotguns to Winchester and be replaced by a new one, the Model 1897. on this subject, I have corresponded with the renowned author and US firearms expert Bruce Canfield. What year or serial # range did the mod 37 stop being able to slam fire? With the depression dragging on and another war looming on the horizon, it was possibly the worst time to introduce a sporting arm. It's a featherlight model with the dog and such engravings. Choke. Smith & Wesson Model 586: Reviewing A .357 Revolver With Class. "The Ithaca Model 37 Defense Gun Eight Shot 3-inch 12 Gauge is the high-capacity 20-inch-barrel model, able to hold seven shells in the magazine plus one in the chamber. . The demand of new ITHACA 37 shotgun's has risen 12 units . Wood is in very good condition. Manufactured in 1976. I'll strongly reccomend against ,"slam firing" the 40 year old used shotgun of uncertain history. Lay-, Metal surfaces rate near excellent, light handling marks to wood. Out of stock. Came late in life to shooting but is making up for lost time Well, the slam fire feature goes all the way back to the Winchester 97. Had a little too thick of a glove on and that bastard went off ass soon as cocked it again. The Ithaca Model 37 started life in 1937 in Ithaca, NY. I wanted one so bad for a while. Ithaca Acquisition took over the company and moved all the manufacturing to King Ferry, New York. The M&P Model served our troops well in World War II, the Korean Conflict and the Vietnam War. Nobody builds on model 12s because parts are getting scarce and you need to really understand them when tweaking them. Checkered walnut stock and beavertail forend. 12 Gauge pump action shotgun with 20" barrel, full length mag tube, pistol grip, sling swivels and folding stock. In the case of the Ithaca Model 37 shotgun, if you hold the trigger down while you continue to rack the weapon, it will fire without you having to let go of the trigger. Todays Model 37 is available in 12, 16, 20 and 28 gauge. The second sear (if present) is part of the slide release and it release's he hammer if the trigger is held back. 1952 30" full choke barrel. Weight: 6.7 lb. He sent it back a second time and got it back again without any explanation and very little improvement. They may not truly trust a semi-auto and are comforted by the simplicity of a pump. It then mentions that this fault is impossible on the Remington M31, M11 and sportsman, and Savage M720 (all guns with disconnectors)(my words). Sign up for our daily email and get the stories everyone is talking about. The New York City Police Department used 2 versions of the Model 37: one with a 13" barrel with forend hand-strap for its Emergency Service Unit and one with an 18" barrel for its Highway Patrol and solo patrol officers of designated low-crime precincts through a short-lived program spanning from the late 1970s to early 1980s. This is not always a good thing, especially with an inexperienced shooter. A shot in the dark, so to speak, perhaps to achieve, with a manual action, (known reliability) parity in respect of rates of fire with the emerging self- loaders..? The way Ithaca stopped the firing when the bolt was closed and trigger held back was to remove the second sear on the hammer. Firing the gun by pulling the trigger releases the fore-end slide so it can be pulled to the rear to eject the spent shell and then pushed forward to quickly load another round into the chamber. Free Shipping, No Credit Card Fees. Stupidly I didn't get the serial number. As such, its value would be around $400. 14 &r, Guns Listing ID: 618502This 1940 Ithaca deluxe model 37 16 gauge is in very good condition as you can see from the listing photos with some wear and tear from little use over the past 80 years. Very interesting stuff Jaguar, you seem to know these guns very well. The "slamfiring" is done with a second sear in the trigger group. Free Shipping, No Credit Card Fees. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. For more information, please see our Ithaca Model 37 Slam fire * 12 Ga * 2 3/4 chamber * Barrel length 26" * Front bead sight * No interstate sales tax This Ithaca is in used condition, The finish is worn is a few places. The Model 37 was based on a patented John Browning design. *** Approximately 67 King Ferry Models were made. Any of these that came to the factory for service were converted back to the original shell stops at no charge. The buttstock is uncheckered walnut, finished off with a nicely ground, black Pachmayr Decelerator recoil pad. Solid gun. I bought it in '73, so it was fresh off the line. In 1987, the name of the Ithaca 37 shotgun was changed to the Model 87. The Model 97, as it was later known, became the most popular shotgun in the country. WANT TO PURCHASE CALL SHHOP 716-941-3946, ITHACA DEERSLAYER 12 GAUGE 26 INCH RIFLE SIGHTS SMOOTH BORE 2 3/4in CHAMBER NEAR MINT.CHECKERED STOCK AND FOREARM, CORRECT ITHACA PAD. sells for $500 plus the ride thanks for looking. 1951 Ithaca model 37 Feather weight in 20ga. 1942 per the page above. The 28-gauge guns are built on a smaller receiver, which gives the model the easy handling and trim appearance one would expect for the gauge. Slam fire is a debated practice. WANT TO PURCHASE CALL SHOP 71`6-941-3946, SALE PENDING SALE PENDING Like new condition 26 in. Much of the data presented for the Model 37 guns came from microfilm copies of Ithaca shipping records on file at the National Tracing Offices of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and from microfiche copies of invoices from the 1980 era that were found at the Ithaca factory. On most models up to 1975, a second sear was installed that would drop the hammer as soon the gun went into battery if the trigger was in a depressed condition. I own both and they have plenty of moving parts and safety features to keep the gun from having accidents with misfiring shells while the gun bolt was unlocked, I still have to wonder if it was intentional. This means that if you hold the trigger down while cycling the action, the weapon will fire as soon as the slide reaches the full forward limit of travel, without need for releasing and pulling the trigger for each shot. Classic Ithaca pump shotgun, 26" Ribbed barrel with improved cylinder choke, 2 3/4" chamber, case colored reciever with engraved game scen, This Ithaca Model 37 is a right hand pump action shotgun in 12 Ga. I have one made in 1975 that is a 20ga and another made in 1977 coming in 12 ga. It features bottom ejection pump action, engraved receiver, 4 round magazine tube, plain barrel with modified c, Ithaca model 37 20 gauge Featherweight . The Inland M 37 is based on the original Ithaca Model 37 Trench Gun which was a variation of the Browning Model 17 and features the following: Gauge: .12 gauge / 3" Chamber. Ithaca Model 37 serial numbers/dates of manufacture - 24hourcampfire Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Hop To BP-B2 IC B2 IC B3 CTV Who's Online Now 742 members ( 160user, 06hunter59, 12344mag, 1936M71, 16penny, 1234, 84 invisible), 1,884 guests, and 1,514 robots. Lugs that are machined out of the barrels original steel block create what Ithaca calls the truest, strongest barrel you will ever shoot.. vent rib barrel with 4 choke tubes and wr, ITHACA MODEL 8700 12GA 3 INCH MAG DEERSLAYER RIFLED BORE. Ithaca M-37 12 ga. (1949 . Thanks berettaracer! Shows how the Ithaca model 37 slam fires. In my safe I still have my 20-gauge Model 37 from 1960, which was my first shotgun and is still my favorite. All barrels are steel-shot compatible, and current Model 37s come with three Briley choke tubes in full, modified and improved cylinder; a red TruGlo front sight; gold-plated trigger; and a five-round magazine capacity, with a plug to reduce it to 2+1 where required. Get Guns.com offers and news!! This page was last edited on 4 February 2023, at 19:08. Then as the shell is lifted up toward the chamber, another shell slides out of the magazine under the guide arms preventing closing of the bolt face. Do not know if it would hunt the shotgun or not.My guess would be most likely no, unless it were done alot. Ithaca Gun Company warrants to you, the original purchaser, that this firearm was manufactured free of defects in material or workmanship; and for a period of one (1) year after the date of purchase, the manufacturer agrees to correct by repair or replacement (with same or comparable quality model) your firearm. Hope no one was in the room above him. It later became General Recreation Inc., which added general sporting goods, outdoor clothing and catamarans to its line. The Model 37 had the slam fire from day one, and was discontinued in the late 70's. the big difference is that slam-fire version is fully auto, less accurate, and only has the illusion of slam-firing. This shotgun, re-introduced in 1987, will fire upon closing the action. A 12, 16, and 20 gauge. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Thus, holding the trigger down allowed the gun to fire the instant a new round is cycled into the chamber without requiring the trigger to be released; this feature was called "slam-fire". ** The mark HG indicated registration with the BATF. I don't get the impression it was intentional, one of the reasons I think this is,is because they "fixed" it, as said it was a carry over of a john browning design that Ithaca adopted. 16 Gauge .Click for more info. That may make a difference to a buyer who wants differing choke selections for these fine pump guns. The next pump gun to give both the Model 12 and the 97 serious competition was the Ithaca Model 37. The Model 87 data came from the serial number records of the Ithaca Acquisition Corporation. The second sear is the small projection on the right side of the hammer. Hold the trigger back and you can go through the entire magazine by pumping the action. Other special models over the years have included the Military & Police, English Style with a straight grip, Sporting Clays, Grouse Special, Hogslayer, Home Defense, Rifled Deluxe with a rifle barrel for slugs, Magnum, Bicentennial and others. Ithaca has suffered many setbacks in its history and changed hands numerous times. The Rise Of The Model 37 Meanwhile, the Ithaca Gun Company wanted to get into the slide-action shotgun business. PUMP SHOTGUN, CIRCA 1981. The Ithaca 37 remains a popular choice among civilians for both sport and personal protection. I have done it and it is fun but I have never found it of any real use. Chamber marked 2 3/4", choke measured improved modified, and 14 1/4" LOP. An M37 will not "slamfire" unless it's broken. 3% charge on credit card purchase. The 97s first serious competition in the pump gun category was its sibling, the Winchester Model 12, introduced in 1912. NY: Avon Books, 1995. The DS Police Special that Matt has came factory standard with rifle sights on a 18.5-inch barrel and a park finish. Evolution Of The Model 37 The Model 37 operates in much the same way as other pump-action shotguns. Barrel has some discoloration. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests. The original Ithaca Gun Co. of Ithaca, New York, was. When I dress Western, nothing beats the classic good looks of my Smith & Wesson (S&W) 586 .357 revolver. I think the other page got jumbled at that point because of the four asterisk situation described at the bottom of the page. One was the slab sided, bottom ejecting receiver. Since the loading port for the magazine was at the bottom of the receiver and the spent shells ejected from the same location, the design appealed to both right- and left-handed shooters. The bore is in excellent condition. Eight major concealed carry insurance programs are now available to the millions of Americans who carry concealed. The 1893 was caught between two eras in firearms history, the end of black powder and the beginning of smokeless powder. It's a pump-action shotgun that features a unique "slam-fire" capability. The used value of an ITHACA GUN COMPANY 37 DS POLICE SPECIAL shotgun has fallen $0.00 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $1,060.27 . It probably came about because they were going to law enforcement and military. His website is:www.diamondgunsmithing.com and phone is 607-273-4510. Ithaca changed back to calling these Model 37's after a relatively short time marketing the '87s. JavaScript is disabled. After loading the shells into the magazine and pressing the slide release located in the forward part of the trigger guard, rack the slide and push it forward, loading the chamber. I understand they eventually "fixed" the slam fire feature and I'm wondering if there's anyway to tell. nice engraving. The Ithaca Model 37 is one of the greatest shotguns ever made, light fast handling, all machined parts, no plastic or stamped parts. Transfer at FFL. For those of you who arent familiar with the term slamfire, let me enlighten you before you watch the video. Make: Ithaca. Several big-city police departments, including New York City and Los Angeles, issued the 12-gauge, 20-inch barrel Military & Police Model to patrol units for many years. Slamfires are most common in military firearms that have a free-floating firing pin, as opposed to a spring-loaded one. When the face of the bolt hits the head of the chamber, unless there is a spring around the pin to retard its movement, inertia causes the firing pin to continue forward until it is stopped on the primer of the round. Learn how your comment data is processed. 1. Year Designed: 1933 Manufacturers: Ithaca Gun Company and Industrias Marcati (unlicensed clone from Argentina). Made in many different models, the Ithaca 37 has the longest production run for a pump-action shotgun in history, surpassing that of the Winchester Model 12, the original inspiration for Ithaca's entry into the market. The Winchester 1897 and Ithaca 37 actions are way more complicated and expensive to manufacture than the 870 and 500. Ithaca ~ 37 Featherlight ~ 16 Ga. GI#: 102229390. This means the gun would fire as fast as the. A total of 22,000 of these Model 37 shotguns was delivered to the Saigon government between Nov. 14, 1962 and Jan. 31, 1963. All Rights Reserved, Slam fire memories with the Ithaca M37 pumpgun (VIDEO). The Ithaca 37 (or Model 37) is a pump-action shotgun made in large numbers for the civilian, law enforcement and military markets. DECENT REFINISH OVER SOME LIGHT PITTING. Recently picked up a 16 ga 37 w/poly choke the shoots and handles better than expected. ITHACA MODEL 8700 12GA DEERSLAYER RIFLED BORE 3 " MAG 12GA, ITHACA MODEL 37 DEERSLAYER 12GA 26" BARREL SMOOTH BORE, Ithaca 37 Ultra Featherlight Slide Shotgun 20ga, Ithaca Model 37 Featherlight 20ga 26 Pump Shotgun Recent Production Exc. But not to abuse it in anyway either. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. The trigger consistently pulls at 4.5-5 lbs force and has no creep. While Ithaca did produce some shotguns for military use during the war, they also produced M1911 pistols and M3 submachine guns. It, too, was based on a John Browning design. The Remington Model 17 has a disconnect system much like what semi-autos have. A slamfire is a premature, usually unintended discharge of a firearm that occurs as a cartridge is being loaded into the chamber. Lay-a-w, ITHACA MODEL 87 12GA DEERSLAYER MODEL WITH 24 1/2" RIFLED BORE WITH FACTORY IRON SIGHTS. La, Very good, some finish wear, small nicks and scratches. 2 3/4 chamber ,near new overall cond.s/n 3715529xx.click on pi. and our 1903 (22cal.) He worked his way up to become president of the company and later was mayor of the city of Ithaca, New York. The Model 37 had the slam fire from day one, and was discontinued in the late 70's. However, law enforcement agencies could order new guns with the slam fire if desired. The recoil-operated autos are cleaner but some, especially the older long-recoil designs, have more of a kick than either the gas guns or pumps. The same can be said for the semi-auto, but the self-loading guns arent for every shooter. This allows the shoot. This Shotgun is in Very good condition with some signs of wear present. More than two million Model 37s have been produced over its 80-year history. This pump-action, bottom-ejecting shotgun is available in a number of configurations. John Browning used to work for Winchester and they designed the first auto rifles. Model 12s also are drawing premium prices. The used value of an ITHACA 37 shotgun has risen $18.72 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $582.38 . Reprinted with express written permission from Walter Claude Snyders books The Ithaca Gun Company From The Beginning and Ithaca Featherlight Repeaters: The Best Gun Going: A Complete History of the Ithaca Model 37 and the Model 87. ITHACA MODEL 37 REPEATER Model 37/Standard Grade1937-1983 Model 37S/Skeet Grade1937-1953 Model 37T/Trap1937-1953 Model 37T/Target1954-1961 Model 37R/Solid Rib1940-1967 Model 37 Military Marked (WWII) Model 37RD/Deluxe Solid Rib1954-1962 Model 37 Deerslayer1959-1987 Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. What you want it do do, fire when the action is closed and the trigger is depressed, will only happen if the gun is old enough to not have a disconnector. The special serial number block for the Model 37R was discontinued after 1949. Thanks again! LOP TO NON ORIGINAL PAD 14", Ithaca Model 37 Featherlight is a pump action shotgun in 12 Ga. Based on a 1915 patent by firearms designer John Browning for a shotgun initially marketed as the Remington Model 17, it utilizes a novel combination ejection/loading port on the bottom of the gun which leaves the sides closed to the elements. Other than the name change, it was the same gun. When it happens you can see how some of the old quail hunters around here used to think that pumps were faster than semi autos. My older Ithaca is capable of slamfiring. Chamber marked 2 3/4", choke marked improved cylinder, 14" LOP. Bought used. This was free of charge and, while exact numbers arent available, many Model 1893 owners took advantage of the offer. The Flues model single barrel trap guns and the two bolt hammer guns are also numbered within this series. the "stub" was removed and iirc the slide stop was altered to pevent the hammer from locking. In the current catalog, you will find the Featherlight, Defense Gun, Deerslayer II, Deerslayer III, Turkey Slayer, Waterfowl, Trap Model, Womens Stock and 28 Gauge. Ithaca M37 Defense in 12-gauge. 12 GA PUMP ACTION 3 ROUNDS 19 BARREL. Barrel length: 20". The Model 37 was issued by the LAPD beginning in the 1940s and remained in service until the late 1990s. Grades are available in Fancy A, Fancy AA and Fancy AAA levels. At that point, Ithaca was no longer a gun company. The largest single users outside the US Military were the New York City Police Department and the Los Angeles Police Department. I have two that will not fire with the trigger held back --- 37147xxxx and 37153xxxxx both guns have a "disconnector". All these Model 37's had the serial number prefix of 381. Well known for its line of high-quality side-by-side doubles, the company saw a bright future for the less expensive pump models. With a 2 3/4 in chamber it has a fixed Cyl. Loading the Ithaca 37 involves inserting shotshells of the proper gauge through the loading/ejection port in the bottom of the receiver and pushing them forward into the magazine until retained by the shell stop. It should come as no surprise to a reader of this publication that both designs came directly from the fertile mind of John M. Browning. Some shooters prefer the manually-operated pump because they want to be more in control of the guns operation. $75 for insured shipping Layaway available No sales or shipping to California, Hawaii, Ne, SALE PENDING JOEY D. 11/24/22 Used only by a little old lady on her way home from Church!We'll not quite but in exceptional hardly used condtion for a 73 yr old shotgun. I would check with Les Hovencamp of Diamond Gunsmithing in Ithaca, NY. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I do know the 1975 will slam fire not sure about the 1977 yr or model. America has been called a nation of riflemen, and those who learned how to shoot with a rifle are likely to be more comfortable sighting down the rib of a shotgun with one barrel. . When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Pump action 16 gauge with 26" ribbed barrel, 2 3/4" chamber, improved cylinder choke, and factory recoil pad. The receivers of todays Model 37s are made the way they were made years ago, from a solid block of steel. Thanks B, just looked up my dad's, which was originally grandpa's, and it's a 1951 version. May be due to pressure on trigger by operator as action slide handle is pushed forward. May 16, 2012, 09:43 PM . The gun was called the 1911 but knick named "The widow maker" Interesting guns. It's a featherlight model with the dog and such engravings. It was based on a 1915 patent by the famous John M. Br. WANT TO PURCHASE CALL SHOP 716-941-3946, ITHACA MODEL 37 PUMP 16GA PLAIN BARREL CHOKE FULL BRASS BEAD FRONT SIGHT DATES ABOUT 1953 SERIAL NUMBER 528135 RECEIVER AND BARREL MATCHING SERIAL NUMBERS. This feature gave the gun a solid receiver that protected it from the elements and prevented twigs or other debris from getting into the action. MADE IN ITHACA NEW YORK BLUE AND METAL EXCELLENT WOOD HAS JUST A FEW LIGHT HANDLING MARKS ON BUTT STOCK MECHANICS PERFECT. Production paused in 2005 when Ithaca once again changed hands.
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